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After 2 years my parents make contact. The end result is that I promise them to cryogenically preserve ONLY their heads

by paulmolark in

it has been 2 and a half years since my departure from the religion.

i was told by my parents from the start that i would never speak to them until i returned to jehovah dog.

a few months later they told people they hoped i died before the end came, then all of this culminating in them telling my inactive / fading sister that they don't consider me a child anymore and they have given me up to satan.

problemaddict 2

Wow Paul,

I sympathize with this and understand why others are saying to try to have a lighter touch. But honestly....what she has said to you repeatedly is just terrible.

In the end we are all responsible for our actions. I read your thoughts and what she said and wondered to myself what i would have said in your case. One I wish i would do, the other I would be tempted to do.

1) Mom why are you calling me? Is it to try to get me to see that my own mother shunningme, shunning her grandchildren, showing zero love an affection, abusing her children as youngsters, and telling her grandchildren that they will die and are doing things God hates when they were talking about extra curricular activities......is proof that i should come back to the religion of my youth? You are insane, and not welcome around my children. Jehovah has already removed your "parental love" from your heart, as I certainly can't remember the last time I or anyone in my family experienced it. Kick rocks mom.

2) click* (ring, ring).........click x 2*.

Paul my mother once (not directly), suggested....that I could be leading my children to death due to my actions. I already know this is what was taught....I gave a talk about it once. So I told her.......you get that one. One. You ever suggest to me that i am killing my children directly or indirectly, and that is it. You know in your heart that isn't true. I won't speak of this again and will forgive you.....this time.

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Do you consider this site Godly or Ungodly

by Truthexplorer in

over the years, i have seen a change in heart with the country i grew up in and the general view of what they perceive as how everyone should view things in relation to morality.

a strictly religious country for centuries now forever changed within a short number of years.

i have also seen the viewpoint on this site gradually change in many ways.

problemaddict 2

DJS, why you gotta be like that?

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Do you consider this site Godly or Ungodly

by Truthexplorer in

over the years, i have seen a change in heart with the country i grew up in and the general view of what they perceive as how everyone should view things in relation to morality.

a strictly religious country for centuries now forever changed within a short number of years.

i have also seen the viewpoint on this site gradually change in many ways.

problemaddict 2

The old one and done post eh? Why post at all?

This site isn't about believing or not believing. Its about being allowed to believe as you see fit. that journey takes different people different places, but I had enough of a religion that was dogmatic in its viewpoint thank you very much. In the real world, it is perfectly reasonable to have a spirited discussion about a topic in which you may disagree with the person with another viewpoint......and its perfectly ok. In fact even beneficial.

Personally I think your approach is in itself very "JW". Its the ole "this world is so bad" mantra. The world is not that bad. The people that have given up on it, do it the largest disservice.

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Overlapping Generation/GB/Doug Sanderson

by Simon Morley in

my apologies of this topic has been covered already - please redirect me if it has:.

current belief is:.

watchtower (study edition), april 15th, 2010 issue, pages 27-29:.

problemaddict 2

This is the easiest way i have found to remember it, AND to blow it up simultaneously and accurately. I am not sure what Fred Franz has to do with this specifically so I would refrain from using names.

If someone was old enough to partake in 1914, that is the first part of this generation. If someone in modern times was old enough to partake with people from the first group, they are an extension of that group (they overlap with it).

The WT has said the end will come before all these ones pass away.

So......one need simply find the youngest member of the anointed that was alive and partaking while someone who partook in 1914 was still alive (so not necessarily the youngest anointed person out there), and figure out how long they will probably live to get an expiration date on "this ole system of things".

This is exactly what is taught by JW's currently without any hyperbole or stretching of imagination.

Its like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Music buffs.Here we go again. List you're all-time favorite Guitarists

by flipper in

jw
friends

hello ya'll.

was just listening to great guitar music from some of my favorites.

who are your all time favorites?

problemaddict 2

I know everyone here is only living in the past because none of these lists have Gary Clark Jr on them, and he is the best young guitarist in a generation.

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"When you protect the institution over the individual, justice isn't possible"

by problemaddict 2 in

so says kirsten gillibrad the senator from new york.

it was regarding rape at college campus, and how it tends to be handled "internally" and "with bias".. i watched this unfold on an episode of vice on hbo from this weekend.

the similarities were striking.

problemaddict 2

So says Kirsten Gillibrad the senator from New York. It was regarding rape at college campus, and how it tends to be handled "internally" and "with bias".

I watched this unfold on an episode of VICE on HBO from this weekend. The similarities were striking. Colleges attempt to keep these things off the record in order not to harm their public image. As a result a sort of culture of blame and looking the other way develops until the few have the courage to speak out and become many.

Its an interesting episode I would highly recommend.

One of the main differences which speaks terribly to our former faith, is that on campus there have been proven hoaxes, and the defense of consent can and is used. However, with molestation there is no consent defense. Nor can confession be overlooked.

The senator used the term "the culture of benign neglect". With jehovahs Witnesses it has been an active neglect.

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Everything seems to be changing... why not birthdays?

by StarTrekAngel in

if we look at all doctrines, we see an overall effort to conserve unity and control.

- assuming most birthdays, if allowed, would probably be oriented to children, then that means 40 celebrations per year.

so all in all, this give a total potential attendance to a birthday of 30 families (120 attendance / 4 family members).

problemaddict 2

LQ...are you SURE you cannot be disfellowshipped for celebrating your or your childs birthday? I would beg to differ.

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Jehovah's Witnesses 2015 Regional Convention Saturday PM experience parents shunning children

by Watchtower-Free in

clip 3 minutes long.

ron and brenda sutton ................warwick 3 children

it was the missed association with family that brought them back.

problemaddict 2

I am disgusted by these parents, and by the men manipulating this into the general conversation of the convention. Shunning comes so easy after you hear things like this slipped in a million times or so.

My own mother will sit and listen to this shaking her head, feeling she has done something wrong, and possibly consider shunning me, when I am not even disfellowshipped.

I suppose this puts to rest the idea that there was any reform at all coming regarding disfellowshipping.

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What should I ask Richard Dawkins tonight?

by the comet in

jw
friends

my amazing wife surprised me and bought tickets for us to hear richard dawkins tonight!

he is giving a lecture with someone and then they are having a q&a session.

anyone have any suggestions for questions i could ask?

problemaddict 2

I second what cappytan said. That is what i was coming here to suggest. You will need to read the quote to him and share the context. Might start an interesting conversation.

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"The Apostle" Paul & "The governing body" He paid not attention to them

by LAWHFol in

many witnesses view the structure of the organization, and the authority of the governing body , as a model of the first century congregation..if the governing body is, indeed structured similarly to the 12 apostles.

paul provides a good example of how we need to view men such as these.. he admonishes christians to reject any teaching that is different from god's word gal 1:8 "but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.".

he shows by his words that the first century leaders, meant little to him.. 2 cor 11:5 "indeed, i consider that i am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.".

problemaddict 2

I've been wondering something.

Was Paul even aware at the time he wrote his letters to congregations and his brethren, that his letters were going to be part of some cannonized holy scripture in the future? It doesn't seem like it does it? No prophetic statements really, just management of the primitive Christians.

What reason is there for Pauls letters to be deemed as somehow coming from God, rather than just a (maybe) historical narrative of the early congregation?